240v/400v machine

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Ianspreader

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Hello just wondering if any one uses a machine which you can use 240v or 400v and if they are any good? Cheers for your help again
 
I know it is a pain having a genny running ,but to be honest ,i also like not having the worry of getting a power supply ,sparks wanting to shut down the feed for 20 mins :RpS_cursing: ,people unplugging your power ,been there in the old days on site ,do that to a machine ,it is a right pain , but thats me
 
Don't know why people have a beef with using a Genny tho. Sure they cost ££££ and that's a pain in ar5e but it takes 30 seconds to roll it down the ramps and 30 seconds to plug it all in.

We have a long cable so only roll it out the van and away we go.

That way noise is away from you as is exhaust etc
 
It makes a difference on a few different levels. Just like knowing there is power and water available on site in any situation
1, Fuel savings and never running out during a spray
2, Noise issues. ive had cant spray till 10 on a sunday and do you guys realise its not even 6 am
3, Being able to turn it on and off without a genny still running wasting fuel is heaven ala ritmo
4, less equipment = smaller van = machine will likely be in the van most nights and no bother to set up on a small job
5, cheaper start up costs
 
I love our 110v right ritmo. It's excellent on site plugging in to site boxes.

We have a Genny. I've used it a hand full of times mostly at BBQ's
 
But you still get major issues with using 240v on site...

There was someone on here a few months ago from Scotland who was selling their 240v machine for this exact reason

Agreed the Gene set up is more but at least you don't have the worries. Running out of fuel during a spray is quite rare I would imagine, it's basics making sure your tank is full before a spray. This would become second nature checking this.


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For me it was getting nearly 1/4 of a ton on the back of the truck then off then back on and off again to lock it away. Same with the monojet?

Now I can put the Ritmo on the truck on my own and take it off again. No getting the lads round to mine at the crack of dawn and then at night to get it off.

Plus there is no noise issue.
 
Perhaps if we changed the definition of "site" this subject would become straight forward. I think we all have the same common goal.

"Site" as in sub contracting to a larger contractor who is sub contracting to an even larger Main contractor then 240 will become an issue that some people will not want to confront and therefore a 110v or 3 phase or diesel are the machines available.

Then You have " site" as in working direct to a medium builder or developer that is more relaxed than the larger contractors. We use 240v all the time on these type of "sites" and have no issues. Many of the people i have sold machines to have the same circumstances.

Finally you have "site" as in working for small builders and doing private jobs. Again there are loads of plasterers who do this type of work all year and a 240v machine is perfect for them.

Out of the 3 above i would say 2/3rds of plasterers have access to 240v supply and make an informed choice.

Based on my own experiences on different sites over the years i find i use my 240v ritmo L more than any other machine day to day. the size of it means i would be willing to take on smaller jobs and complete them more rapidly with better profit. With my g4 set up i would turn smaller work away in favour of jobs where i could use the machine and often the thought of driving a big sprinter with full machine and genny up to a house where i'm doing a quick 90 quid ceiling on the way home was enough to make me say no. Now ritmo in back and yes luv i'll call and do it on the way home tonight.
 
ritmo xl and g4 will have the same motor. the new slimline d6-3 rotor and stator pump unit is designed to give the same output in 230/400 v mode
 
Think it would be good to have a machine which wouldn't be over the top on a 30sqm extension but then could handle a big site 1000sqm job
 
we had 15 mts of hose on in that video and it was running 20 bar. if you had it wetter you coulda added 5 mts. In 3 phase mode it will pump 40-50mts away
 
To be honest ,no mate ,my can takes £24 ,and always have half full in the genny ,bit like running out of fuel driving to work :RpS_wink:
 
Hands up whos run out of fuel :RpS_thumbup:
First time other day, wat a tit. None in can hardwall in pipes. Had go to get some . Was craping um as normally we blocked in on site carpark. Half hour later sorted and it pushed out straight away. Pressure went from 10 to 25 on a 15 m pipe but we got there
 
Get to site set up everyrhing . if you don't know where your working then fill Genny on way if not get the lad to fill it while he goes for the brews as your taping your windows etc.

No excuses for running out bar sloppy organisation.

Fk the neighbours we all gotta earn.

I love the smell of 3phase.

Pros and cons to all. I know a lad with a 240 machine and one client wouldn't let him use their electric. So on it goes.
Trip.

We rolled up on Friday to domestic house rolled the pump and Genny out and sprayed a 60m job and scraped in same day using 3phase power/speed We needed 25m of hose to get all area meaning we didn't need to move anything or the pallets/bags When time is the essence.

You see you adapt to what set up you have. Personally I can't see me ever moving away from 3phase.

The machine we have is also very easy to move not like a g4/5 baffles me why Pft don't make it anymore it is the machine that has the answer to a lot of scenarios. Power/distance manuverability etc.
 
Get to site set up everyrhing . if you don't know where your working then fill Genny on way if not get the lad to fill it while he goes for the brews as your taping your windows etc.

No excuses for running out bar sloppy organisation.

Fk the neighbours we all gotta earn.

I love the smell of 3phase.

Pros and cons to all. I know a lad with a 240 machine and one client wouldn't let him use their electric. So on it goes.
Trip.

We rolled up on Friday to domestic house rolled the pump and Genny out and sprayed a 60m job and scraped in same day using 3phase power/speed We needed 25m of hose to get all area meaning we didn't need to move anything or the pallets/bags When time is the essence.

You see you adapt to what set up you have. Personally I can't see me ever moving away from 3phase.

The machine we have is also very easy to move not like a g4/5 baffles me why Pft don't make it anymore it is the machine that has the answer to a lot of scenarios. Power/distance manuverability etc.

Think the Ritmo XL was the replacement for the mono/mini jet. Dual voltage and can spray acrylics.

if I had the space I would have kept the monojet as well as having the Ritmo. Those big Victorian gables are a task for the Ritmo. Not only height but speed. Wouldn't want a piecing line.
 
Get to site set up everyrhing . if you don't know where your working then fill Genny on way if not get the lad to fill it while he goes for the brews as your taping your windows etc.

No excuses for running out bar sloppy organisation. You had it easy so far. Wait till things get hectic and you have to rely on others to spray/set things up. Subbies ring when they run out never 2 days prior.

Fk the neighbours we all gotta earn. You are very conscientious and considerate. i worked with you and know this so don't play the hard man

I love the smell of 3phase.

Pros and cons to all. I know a lad with a 240 machine and one client wouldn't let him use their electric. So on it goes.
Trip.

We rolled up on Friday to domestic house rolled the pump and Genny out and sprayed a 60m job and scraped in same day using 3phase power/speed We needed 25m of hose to get all area meaning we didn't need to move anything or the pallets/bags When time is the essence.

You see you adapt to what set up you have. Personally I can't see me ever moving away from 3phase.

The machine we have is also very easy to move not like a g4/5 baffles me why Pft don't make it anymore it is the machine that has the answer to a lot of scenarios. Power/distance manuverability etc.
As Rigsby says you cant do it on youre own without breaking a big sweat and so are reliant on payed labour to help.

use whatever suits you, theres plenty of options available
 
Plasterjfe what sort of van you got? Do you keep machine n genny on board or do you unload at night? If I was rendering all the time be a lot easier but I have to unload all my kit to load the machine in and then I need help with loading machines are all very confusing lol
 
Horses for courses ,as they say ,i,m happy Les @PFTnorthern sold me the g4 , he said it would be the right machine for me ,and was spot on :RpS_thumbsup: , buy another tomorrow if i had to
 
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Plasterjfe what sort of van you got? Do you keep machine n genny on board or do you unload at night? If I was rendering all the time be a lot easier but I have to unload all my kit to load the machine in and then I need help with loading machines are all very confusing lol

Transits swb one with kit in and one with tools in etc
 
Get to site set up everyrhing . if you don't know where your working then fill Genny on way if not get the lad to fill it while he goes for the brews as your taping your windows etc.

No excuses for running out bar sloppy organisation.

Fk the neighbours we all gotta earn.

I love the smell of 3phase.

Pros and cons to all. I know a lad with a 240 machine and one client wouldn't let him use their electric. So on it goes.
Trip.

We rolled up on Friday to domestic house rolled the pump and Genny out and sprayed a 60m job and scraped in same day using 3phase power/speed We needed 25m of hose to get all area meaning we didn't need to move anything or the pallets/bags When time is the essence.

You see you adapt to what set up you have. Personally I can't see me ever moving away from 3phase.

The machine we have is also very easy to move not like a g4/5 baffles me why Pft don't make it anymore it is the machine that has the answer to a lot of scenarios. Power/distance manuverability etc.
Feel like we are made to look as if we are in the dark ages :RpS_confused: , love my G4 :flapper:and genny :flapper:
 
Feel like we are made to look as if we are in the dark ages :RpS_confused: , love my G4 :flapper:and genny :flapper:

not at all brother. 3 phase is the way to go if you are using loads of gear and youre in a gang. the switchables are a luxury not a necessity
 
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